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We just did a ceiling with murs d'art (untinted, slightly textured and two coats of tinted wax) we like how it looks by itself but the problem is of how it's matching the rest of the walls - it stands out more than desired.
Does anyone has any suggestions on how to tone down or smooth out the look?
I don't know if I can describe the problem accurately, but the finish came out very shadowy and it almost looks too busy on the ceiling, so it takes away from the other accent wall that we did.
Any advice or suggestion would be much appreciated.
 
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if the wax is an acrylic base, you can do an overglaze and it softens the entire look.
 
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Carmine,it's ceranova wax. I'm not sure if it's acrylic based. Do you mean overglaze with untinted wax thought?
 
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no, not with untinted wax.

An overglaze is basically a watered down glaze that is usually colored similar to the base color you start off with or another lighter color than the precominant color scheme. Waht it does is soften the contrast by bringing everything together to a more central point.

If the wax was acrylic, then you could. I sense that the issue is that the wax is building up in the lows and getting rubbed off the highs more, creating a more distressed look....

Any more wax is going to just add more to the areas you want less in. (I am assuming you are applying and rubbing back.)

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(an overglaze is just applied and lightly pounced over the whole surface.)

I held back from suggesting taking the wax off cuz in the end, it owuld just create more of a mess than doing the whole thing over again, (particularly if you have a finish iwth highs and lows and interest.
 
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Thanks Carmine,
we don't have heavy interest, so there is not much highs and lows, but we didn't rub back much when we were applying so I wonder if that's the problem. We were rather trying to spread and blend the color when applying.
So I wasn't sure from your answer can I try a glaze over the ceranova wax and if so what kind do you recomend?
I'm still not sure if ceranova is acrylic or not, I couldn't find anywhere about what its composition is, any idea?
We tried to change the color on our sample boards (not so much to see if that helps, but to see if it's possible) and it seems when two colors of the wax mix they give a dirty effect on the finish, or maybe it's the colors we are using because we saw Doyle do it on the DVD and it was one of the finishes.
I guess we are just learning of what we can and cannot get away with.
Thanks again.
 
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i would not do an overglaze........ Not sure it would work.... Whenever I have hear of anyone wanting to do a VP over a previous VP and it was waxed, they usually recommend removing the wax

Usually when two colors muddy, you use a third, whether clear or whatnot as a buffer between em for blending out. For glazing, that third color sometimes is the same as the base.

Do you have a pic you can send me? I am having a hard time seeing what happened now.
 
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Ceranova wax is some what like a glaze. You can do another layer on top to tone.
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Oksana, did you try the overglaze with the wax tinted to the base or a lighter color?
 
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for so long I have what does carmine look like and where does he live....at least now I know one of them....Smiler that is frik'n great, I'm pissing myself right now. Hope all is well guys, pounding the pavement in CT as we speak, then out to Utah then to SALI..
 
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Graham, good friend of mine Brian and his wife are teaching a class at SALI. I can't make it this year but am working on a SALI chapter in our state.
 
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