hi could someone clear something up for me please what is the differance between marmorino and stucco and spatulata cos i think i am getting confused with all the names many thanks frank

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hi why is that funny i am asking for advice and your making fun of me if you can help then thats great if not please dont mock thanks frank

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whats your problem mate have you never needed help before or is it that your perfect i came on this site to get help with venetian plastering but maybe your not the person to help or maybe you dont have the answers which is why your mocking me so thanks anyway

Frank,

The problem you may be having is that you are trying to compare other company's products with Safra's. I attended the school this past September so am only able to give you information on Safra's products. The grain size of the marble is what helps to create the look of the different finishes. Veneziano is what I call a polished plaster as it has a high sheen to it once it is burnished. Marmorino's show more of a grain to them and to me have a matte finish. There are DVD's available but I really recommend taking the class as that is the only way to truly become familiar with the products and their applications.

Frank:

all lime lasters have a base of lime, has whiting (since lime is naturally creamy colored) and other fillers and binders. If you add enough marble dust, it shines up to a nice sparkle, if you add aggregates like a white sand or a darker one, you get various looks.

Lime, naturally, doesn't bond to anything so it needs something in it that will help it do so, otehrwise you need a mechanical way to create bond like a scratchcoat htat it can embed into.

It don't matter what any company calls any of their products, the size of the aggregate, the amount of fillers to cheapen the product, the type of bindders, all play an effect.

Some marmorinos are at best, give off a matte or eggshell finish.

Some can create a nice sparkle....

Some polish very smoothly

Some drag nicely for a travertine look...

All good quality lime products can be used interior AND exterior. If the company says theyir product can't be used outside, it is cuz it has way way too much JUNK in the product, fillers and it has compromised the strength of the lime. (way too little lime in product).

You can't compare most company's products to others cuz , well, most companies don't tell you how much of waht they put in their products. it's not so much that it is a trade secret, cuz any chemist from any other company can figure out what is in the product, well enough to copy cat it, I am guessing they don't want the end user making great comparisons. Some companies will say, we have at minimum, this much of this or that in teh product.

In the end, even batch to batch, even the lime that is used does change, all you can hope for is that the company is consistent enough using great products, high quality binders and not stretch the product way too much.

Frank....keep asking questions, that is the way you will learn...we all learn, especially from others asking. It is confusing at first, but after awhile it will start to make sense. I remember at the beginning, I wasn't sure what was what?????? Carmine...thank you for your detail answers, I have learned so much. Welcome to the forum and hope you keep asking.
Melody

hi thanks for the reply carmine and melody that has helped very much i will continue to try to better my knowlegde on this subject at every given oppotunity , agian thanks very much frank

and curtis sorry thanks very much